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Post by Steve on Sept 14, 2008 22:45:06 GMT -5
Volcanus and Dolphanzee vs. Zorgeksa and Tyrantis. The arena is Tokyo during the daytime.
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Post by tyrantisterror on Sept 15, 2008 14:52:17 GMT -5
Hmm, tough one. The environment isn't really detrimental to anybody - both Zorgeksa and Tyrantis are very knowledgeable about how to navigate cities, and Volcanus can fly. Dolphanzee is the best suited to it, though, as it gives him lots of oppurtunities to scale buildings and attack fro different levels of ground. The buildings also give all the monsters lots of cover from ranged attacks, which they're all likely to use since they're all "thinking" fighters.
As for how the batlle would go - honestly, this is a battle where I think it's very unlikely that it'll devolve into two 1 on 1 matches. Both teams are competent fighters who have the ability to work together, and all four combatants are equally matched. I see the pairs switching foes all throughout the fight.
Tyrantis and Zorgeksa are definitely more suited to fighting cooperatively, though, since Volcanus is kind of a maniacal, psychopathic bitch who's more likely to use Dolphanzee as a human shield than help him out, and Dolphanzee is, well, kind of an asshole himself. As this fight rages on those two are probably going to have some in fighting, and if things get rough for them one of them is likely to split a la Showa Gigan, leaving the other out to dry. Zorgeksa and Tyrantis, on the other hand, will be fighting with the kind of teamwork that would make Godzilla and Anguirus proud.
Power wise they are, as I said before, pretty evenly matched. Volcanus's heat absorption ability will kinda dampen Tyrantis's fire breath's power, but it won't make it a non factor. The fire will still hurt her (if slightly less). Tyrantis is the kind of monster that likes to get in close when fighting, too, and if he uses his fire bite attack he'll definitely do some serious damage to her. Plus there is the very possible event of him overloading Volcanus wcxith heat energy - which would be pretty crappy way to go. If she takes to the air both Tyrantis and Zorgeksa are more than capable of bringing her down to earth and/or evading her fire. It'd be a hard fight, but eventually one of the two saurians would be able to bring her down.
Dolphanzee will be a hard foe, since he's a lot faster than either of the reptiles. However, he's also a lot less durable - he doesn't have a lot of armor and he doesn't heal very fast. He may have the two reptiles on the run and get in some good hits, but eventually he's going to enter the melee fight - and then he's in trouble. Tyrantis's jaws are going to be doom to him, and Zorgeksa's sticky paws and zap breath could likewise spell a rather grisly fate for him. His echolocation ray could do some extreme damage to the saurians, but they can duck or heal if they take a hit.
Tyrantis and Zorgeksa take it through better team work and some help from good old regeneration.
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Post by avpvjp on Sept 15, 2008 17:42:22 GMT -5
Not sure yet. Dolphanzee's given a hefty advantage thanks to the terrain, which'll let him be a nasty hit and run prick for as long as possible. And he's smart enough to realize pretty quick that he'l HAVE to, given that he's the only critter here with no sort of healing prowess. Dolphanzee also has an advantage with having the strongest arms, and given a city and a large brain, he'll use to chuck anything he can find that's heavy and/or pointy their way. In a flat out T&C fight Dolphanzee is, offensively, a good match for either of his opponents, but he can't take many hits.
Volcanus's flight is pretty much out of the equation, since the area provides enough cover that Tyrantis and Zorgeksa could easily duck and hide from any aireal attacks. That said, her fire absortion'll almost negate Tyrantis's fire breath.
Tyrantis could pretty easily take out Dolphanzee as soon as he got a hold of 'im, no question there. Those jaw's would tear the sea monkey apart.
If Tyrantis and Zorgeksa win, Zorgeksa'll come out in the best shape. He's the only one that, while he doesn't have too much of an advantage in any field, he doesn't have any disadvantages here.
Overall, I can see this going either way. Volcanus and Dolphanzee could pull through with hit and run tactics, or Tyrantis and Zorgeksa could win by soaking up damage and dishing it out just as well.
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Post by GREGOLE on Sept 19, 2008 13:38:01 GMT -5
These two are honestly probably one of the best teams to face these two. Both have brains, both are nimble, and while they may not be quite as insanely inventive as the other two, they have a lot of raw power to compensate.
Like Ty said, this battle is liable to be team versus team, over two one-on-one battles.
Dolphanzee has quite an edge with the environment. That gives him a considerable advantage that would probably allow him to go toe to toe with Tyrantis for short periods of time.
Volcanus not only has flight on her side, but powerful ranged weapons and a good deal of cover. On the other hand, the city also offers her opponents quite a bit of cover. And while Tyrantis' flames would be largely ineffective, Zorgeksa's zap-breath would no doubt be quite a problem for her.
Honestly, this is a tough one. But Zorgeksa and Tyrantis have a crucial edge: Teamwork. Volcanus and Dolphanzee are liable to only grudgingly work together, wheras Ty and Gex are going to be counting on one another from the start. That makes me lean towards them for the time.
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Post by avpvjp on Sept 19, 2008 15:24:34 GMT -5
Huh, lookin' over the monsters' bios again I think Dolphanzee and Volcanus might have this. Read Dolphanzee's sample fight: Not only is it A city, where he would have a sizeable advantage, but it's a city he's already been in. He's a very smart animal, and he'd not only be comfortable with the cluttered environment, but experienced there also. Then throw in how he took out Gamera, a solid punch to the head. Which is also a weakness for Tyrantis. Keeping in mind how gorram strong apes are anyway, a few punches from Dolphanzee could K'O Tyrantis. With Volcanus leeching away his fire breath and keeping Zorgeksa at bay, Tyrantis could go down. IF Volcanus and Dolphanzee can take out either Zorgeksa or Tyrantis early enough (and they're smart enough to realize they'ld have to take one out ASAP), they could gang up on the other.
So, home field advantage, combat style, and tricks are causin' me to lean towards Volcanus and Dolphanzee, but I think this one should really have more debate.
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Post by zillachary on Sept 19, 2008 16:52:04 GMT -5
(Man, I've been gone awhile, but I have returned!And I'm quite suprised with this match...)
I can't say who would win.I'm sorta leaning toward Ty and GZ, but Volcanus and DZ have their advantages too.
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Post by piebot on Sept 26, 2008 16:52:05 GMT -5
This is a tough one! I could see this going either way really. Honestly, this is a fight of epic proportions. I think Zorgeksa and Tyrantis are going to have a huge advantage with there team work, and I don’t think Volcanus and Dolphanzee would work together to well. But they are STILL going to be one heck of a tough team. Hmmm….I wonder if Volcanus would be able to seduce Tyrantis to her side XP. Anyway, I really don’t know yet, needs more discussion.
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Post by tyrantisterror on Sept 26, 2008 17:53:15 GMT -5
Hmmm....I wonder if Volcanus would be able to seduce Tyrantis to her side XP. Probably not. Tyrantis attracted to reptiles, not mammals. She'd look kinda repulsive to him, actually. There is another option that we didn't consider: both Volcanus and Dolphanzee are described as, well, horny. Incredibly so, actually - Volcanus has apparently schtupped a hospital and one of Dolphanzee's attacks is basically the hump of death. So it may be that they decide to make love not war, which would give the reptiles a win by default... a sexy default.
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Post by avpvjp on Sept 27, 2008 21:39:02 GMT -5
Reconsidering this fight for about the third time, I kinda picture it dripping with Showa-era charm. Dolphanzee popping around like a game of Whack-A-Mole, Tyrantis and Zorgeksa using cooperative attacks like Jet Jaguar and Godzilla's sliding tail kick deal, and maybe even Volcanus and Dolphanzee doing likewise. Now, I think Dolphanzee and Volcanus have a SLIGHT edge in brainpower, being probably the smartest team in this tournament. They're going to try to keep the very cooperative Zorgeksa and Tyrantis team seperated, following the old fashioned "divide and conquer" guidelines, probably with Volcanus taking Zorgeksa and Dolphanzee taking Tyrantis.
With Dolphanzee and Tyrantis's fight, it'll probably look alot like a spanish bull fight whack-a-mole mix. Dolphanzee pops out of a random place, throws some punches/beams/heavy objects, and then either runs, rolls, or swings out of Ty's way. Tyrantis isn't stupid by any means, but Dolphanzee is smarter, more agile, and much more at home in the arena. If the place were more open, Dolphanzee wouldn't stand a chance, but as it is I really can't see him getting hit enough to really get hurt.
As for Volcanus vs Zorgeksa, she might try to act less dangerous than she is, which'll probably work for a while. At least until Zorgeksa tries to help out his friend, at which point Volcanus'll do her best to prevent it. While again a long fight, I see Volcanus going down before Zorgeksa IF Dolphanzee hasn't taken Tyrantis outa the game just yet.
If it boils down to Dolphanzee against Zorgeksa, I'ld bet that Dolphanzee would use the exact same tactic he used against Tyrantis. But, considering that Zorgeksa's zap-breath probably has more range than Tyrantis's fire, it'ld be much riskier for the arboreal dolphin. Honestly, I see this one having an almost 50/50 chance, if not for one thing : Dolphanzee's familiarity with the environment. Remember? He's been here before. For a less intelligent monster that means nothing, but it's HUGE for a cunning beast like the Dolphanzee. Another long fight, but Dolphanzee and Volcanus have it with brains and agility.
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Post by zillachary on Sept 28, 2008 11:05:45 GMT -5
Could I state something?Volcanus is NOT a mammal.She's simply a being composed of heat-based elements.If her Black Series bio on DA messed you up, I apologise.If you just thought of her being a mammal, well, list some mammals you see living near the Sun.To simply put it, she's not mammalian.She does have traits, but is not.Most of her powers/abilities for the FMKT have been either been modified(Her Fire-Resistance,for example)or deleted(Such as her Volcano Creation).
But enough of my chatting, continue.
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Post by tyrantisterror on Sept 28, 2008 15:01:56 GMT -5
That's all assuming this fight is going to be two one on one matches - and while that is normally the case, it will not be so in this match because both teams are too smart to let that happen. Tyrantis and Zorgeksa are definitely going to be working together - they will have each other's backs all throughout the match. That's how they roll. Now, Volcanus and Dolphanzee may not be as cooperative, or they may try to separate the two reptiles, but that's neither of those options are going to end well. While Zorgeksa and Tyrantis may not be as smart as their opponents, they are still pretty intelligent - and they'll know to stick together if it suits them. If either one is having trouble fighting their opponents, they'll simply switch to change things up. It's how they roll.
And Dolphanzee's terrain advantage isn't that huge - sure, he's been here before and he's more suited to this environment, but both Zorgeksa and Tyrantis have fought in MANY different cities before. Hell, Zorgeksa has fought in the amazing cities of the distant future - which would probably be more croweded and chaotic than those of our time. To say that the saurians could easily adapt to the environment would be an understatement.
This isn't a repeat of Dolphanzee and Volcanus's match against Magmire and Lockjaw - while Tyrantis and Zorgeksa aren't quite as smart as their foes, they're pretty damn close. Add to this the fact that Dolphanzee and Volcanus aren't psychologically suited to be good team-mates - Volcanus is a bitch and Dolphanzee is an asshole - and you have a fight between a team that's got incredibly good team work with the brains and brawn to back it up, and a team with rather poor teamwork with slightly better brains and slightly less brawn.
Tyrantis and Zorgeksa take it with hard work and enough smarts to even odds.
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Post by zillachary on Oct 2, 2008 21:07:23 GMT -5
Hmmmmmmm...
Well, considering that Volcanus was Geckoro's first foe, and was killed, and the fact Tyrantis and Zorgeksa have great experience in battle-tactics, Volcanus might end up grounded and pulverised by the two, who then gang up on DZ.
In the end, Ty and GZ win by experience and teamwork.Sorry Volly,maybe next year...
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